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Standing Band Shoulder Extension with External Rotation

The same set-up as the neutral version: two light loop bands on the door at hip height, the loops around your wrists, your back to the door. The difference is the rotation. Turn your arms out until your thumbs point outwards, let them move a little away from your sides, out to the side, and draw back from there. Sternum lifted, shoulder blades back and down, chin back. The bands are lighter than in the neutral version.

Muscle groups: Rear delts, Rotator cuff, Upper back, NeckEquipment: BandID: SHD-13
Standing Band Shoulder Extension with External Rotation — the movement.
The core idea

The only difference from the neutral version is the rotation — and it shifts who does the work. With your thumbs turned out, the shoulder rotators take on a larger share, and the shoulder blade tilts back more readily.

The closer your arms stay to your body, the more this is an exercise for the rotator cuff. The further they travel out to the side, the more the posterior deltoid takes over. This version sits between the two.

The bands here are lighter than in the neutral version. Turning outwards is the weaker part of the movement — with too much pull you take the force from the posterior deltoid and from twisting the forearm instead of from the shoulder. The inside of your elbow turns outwards with the arm, and that is how you know it is right.

From practice: I use both versions as a pair and let clients work out for themselves which one feels better. Those who feel a pull at the front of the shoulder in the neutral version usually get on better with this one. That is what I see in the studio.

Starting position

The set-up is the same as in the neutral version: two loop bands on the door at hip height, the loops around your wrists, hands open and relaxed, your back to the door, feet hip-width apart. The door is shut and cannot swing open.

Now turn your arms outwards until your thumbs point out. The inside of your elbow turns outwards with them — that is how you check that the rotation is really coming from the shoulder. Your arms move a little away from your sides as you do, further out to the side than in the neutral version. From there, draw back, lift your sternum, draw your shoulder blades back and down, and bring your chin back.

The bands here are lighter than in the neutral version. Turning outwards is the weaker part of the movement, and if the bands are too heavy you produce the force with the posterior deltoid and by twisting the forearm, instead of with the shoulder rotators.

If your shoulder is sore, practise the rotation only for now, without pulling back.

The three cues

  1. Same set-up, but lighter bands
  2. Turn your arms out until your thumbs point outwards
  3. The inside of your elbow turns outwards — that tells you the rotation comes from the shoulder
  4. Arms a little out to the side, then draw back
  5. Lift your sternum, shoulder blades back and down, chin back

Common faults

FaultHow to fix it
The rotation comes from the forearm instead of the shoulderWatch the inside of your elbow — it has to turn outwards with the arm. If only the hand turns out while the elbow stays put, the forearm is rotating.
Using the same bands as in the neutral versionUse lighter ones. Turning outwards is the weaker part of the movement — with too much pull the posterior deltoid takes over.
The arms travel too far from the bodyA little further than in the neutral version is enough. The further out they go, the more this becomes an exercise for the posterior deltoid.
The arms go too far backStop as soon as your ribcage tips forward. Going further back works against the exercise.
The chest collapsesLift your sternum before the arms start. Upright, the shoulder blade tilts back more readily.
Doing the exercise while the shoulder is soreLeave out the pull backwards and practise the rotation only at first. If it keeps hurting, get it looked at.

Variations

VariationWhen to use it
Rotation only, no pull backwardsArms at your sides; turn them outwards and back to neutral. Also the first choice if your shoulder is sensitive.
Rotation plus pull backwardsTurned out, arms a little out to the side, drawing back to the point where your shoulder blades stay back and down.
Short hold at the backHold for two or three breaths at the end of the range.

Reps and load

Twelve reps, one or two sets, calm tempo. Runs as a pair with the neutral version — usually the neutral one first, then this one with the lighter bands.

As homework for desk days and as a warm-up before pressing. Anyone who feels a pull at the front of the shoulder in the neutral version should do this one only.

You progress with a short hold rather than heavier bands.

Which muscles do the work

MuscleRoleWhat it does here
Infraspinatus
M. infraspinatus
Prime moverTurns the upper arm outwards — the leading muscle with the arm at the side
Teres minor
M. teres minor
Prime moverTurns the arm out with it and helps keep the humeral head centred
Posterior deltoid
M. deltoideus pars spinalis
Prime moverDraws the arm back — takes over more the further the arms travel from the body
Middle and lower trapezius
M. trapezius pars transversa et ascendens
SynergistDraw the scapula back and down and hold it there
Rhomboids
Mm. rhomboidei
SynergistDraw the scapula towards the spine
Thoracic erector spinae
M. erector spinae
StabiliserKeep the ribcage lifted — upright, the scapula tilts back more readily
Deep cervical flexors
M. longus colli, M. longus capitis
StabiliserKeep the head over the shoulders while the arms pull

Which muscle leads depends on arm position: with the arm at the side, infraspinatus and teres minor come first; with the arm further out, the posterior deltoid does. Latissimus dorsi and teres major work against this movement, because they turn the arm inwards.

Your next step

Seeing it done right is not the same as doing it right

Video, cues and variations take you a long way. What they cannot give you is an outside eye at the moment the movement isn't quite there yet. That is what training with me is for — in the studio or in a workshop.

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Sources

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A note on context: EMG studies show which muscles an exercise recruits — that is a good reason to pick it, but it does not replace adjusting things to the person in front of you. See a doctor for persistent or severe pain.